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In Why North Korea Needs Nukes - And How To End That we pointed to the utter destruction the U. and its allies waged in the war on Korea on all parts of the country. One consequence of that cover up was the development of torture methods in the U. SERE pilot training programs and their later proliferation into criminal abuses in Guantanamo, Abu Graibh and elsewhere. It claimed that the downed pilots were tortured to give false confessions. During these courses interrogations were staged to provide realistic training. A commission was called upon to investigate: To convince the world of the truth of their claims, the North Koreans and Chinese, sponsored a purported independent commission, using the auspices of the World Peace Council, gathering together a number of leftist scientists from around the world. Over and over again, there are possibilities of diplomacy and negotiation, which might not succeed—you can’t be sure if you don’t try them—but which look pretty promising, which are abandoned, dismissed, literally without comment, in favor of increased force and violence. They ranged from a sigh and a shrug in France to in Germany a muffled, "Stupid Americans." The world is tired of us and deservedly so.
That North Korea seeks "weapons of mass destruction" is quite understandable when one takes into account the hundreds of thousands tons of napalm used against it. Biological warfare agents, primarily anthrax, were dropped over North Korea and China and killed civilians. An important piece of evidence of this trail was recently and for the first time re-published on the web In the 1950s war on Korea heavy air to air fights were waged near the Chinese border which led to significant losses of airplane on both sides especially along the Mi G Alley: USAF pilots nicknamed April 12, 1951 "Black Thursday", after 30 Mi G-15s attacked three squadrons of B-29 bombers (36 planes) escorted by approximately 100 F-80s and F-84s. Some of them admitted to have dropped biological weapons over China and northern Korea. After the Korea War anti-torture training was added. It also used chemical weapons and suppressed investigations into it. The SERE torture resistance training and its abuse are based on the bigger lie about the non-use of biological agents in the war on Korea. Most surprisingly, this commission, which came to be known as the International Scientific Commission, or ISC, was headed by one of the foremost British scientists of his time, Sir Joseph Needham. Following Bush's Axis of Evil speech in 2002, a nuke programme by the Nor K's seems a rational response. I've just learned of Trompé's AP interview https://
During the Chinese Civil War, we trained & equipped 50 KMT divisions (~500,000 troops) fighting the Evil Chicoms and provided primarily military aid of ~.5Billion USD (In 1940's dollars! The Flying Tigers were used to attack the Chicoms & support the KMT after WWII during the Chinese Civil War as they morphed into the then precursor to the CIAs subsequent ' Air America', throughout Indochina and elsewhere (Latin America, etc).
Coercive interrogation serves no useful Intelligence gathering purpose, as the product is flawed, worthless, and merely results in polluted assessments and wasted resources/effort chasing ghosts down rabbit holes. For a good accounting, yes, one must include in the "costs" the resources committed to checking those *few* false leads plausible enough not to be quickly dismissed. The "leads" are the bottleneck, whereas the resources are "free" to you. Or would torturers continue their work but tell people it does not work?
The purpose of Coercive interrogation techniques, Torture, since inception, is as a tool of terror & control, especially as large numbers of innocent victims are subsequently released back into the general population. I sure hope the answers to my questions is "no, the ROI is still negative" and that Outraged is correct.
According to the Senate Armed Services Committee Report (pdf) on U. torturing of prisoners at Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo and CIA black sites, SERE techniques originated in Chinese Communist methods in the Korean War employed to extract false confessions from captured U. American occupation authorities monitored the activities of former unit members, including reading and censoring their mail. You can read them here: It is the purpose of this article to consider the validity of these [U. military denials] in light of the research which we conducted in preparing our recent book, The United States and Biological Warfare: secrets of the Early Cold War and Korea. torture in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere derived. Once again amerika pressured the europuppets to go along with giving China's seat on the security council to the mock-state of Taiwan known back then as Formosa - the name it had before it was invaded by criminal gangs fleeing Mao Zedong's revolution. For example in Iran after the overthrow of Mossadeq '53, and thru SAVAK up to the Iranian revolution of '79, and in isolation were a major contributor to the actual overthrow of the Shah in and of itself.
In that book we conclude that the United States engaged in large-scale field tests of biological weapons against the Asian countries and with some additional evidence we continue to believe that is the case. So not only have amerika's war crimes in Korea convinced President Kim to go thermonuclear, it is highly likely amerika performed the same service for our planet vis a vis China's nuclear weapons. The Kubark manual codified and standardized in a doctrinal form methods already well known and widely 'covertly' utilized offshore prior to '60, long before Abu Ghraib.Mal tried to persuade a skeptical public that his cherry-picked list of generic homilies & platitudes formed the core of a uniquely Australian set of Values.Everyone held their nose waiting for Mal to explain which of his "values" obliges Australia to play the role of a shriveled little nonentity dangling from the arseholes of Ameri KKKa's assholes? media and the public have a general amnesia whenever it comes to U. war crimes - no matter how recent." that is really true from my observations..General Mac Arthur, one of the foremost war criminals ever, covered up the war crimes of the Japanese and especially of Unit 731. Under his command biological agents were then used against Korean and and Chinese civilians and military units. SERE is used as a cover story primarily in 5-Eyes nations, tho also to a lesser degree, wider 14-Eyes and NATO member forces.